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handsketcher
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Most of the time contest holders offering low prices to large commercial projects. This may lead to collapse of this freelance concept at all. Because it won't draw qualified designers and also participants too won't pay enough effort.

And also it is popular that some contests are "payment pending". There were a lot of good designs submitted into such contests without leading to any return for participants. I believe there should be some reasonable appreciation should be there for good design entries.

Please add your thought on this.
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I agree 100% They're putting up beer money and then they think they're entitled to a Ferrari. There also needs to be some sort of penalty to a buyer that is active online during the contest, then disappears when it ends. Maybe block their IP address or a money penalty for wasting everybody's time. 
handsketcher
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@Cad Geek, that is one good option if this platform admins can implement.
sldraftingdesign
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I agree!
Michael Pinto
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Yes there are many talented designers on here with years of experience in their field of expertise. I believe that there needs to be tiers of contests. For instance if a contest creator starts a contest and states that they only need a rough design of something this should be considered a tier 1 design contest. So on and so forth. Perhaps 3 different design tiers for the contests. It is frustrating for the designers who enter the contests and deliver what was asked for and then the person who started the contest asked for more and more refinement. Like Cad Geek said, they want to pay peanuts for the Mona Lisa!
BenTate
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Just as a 'me too', I've recently found this site and thought it was a really interesting idea... but the quality of the contests and rewards posted mean I won't be using it
sldraftingdesign
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Michael Pinto wrote:Yes there are many talented designers on here with years of experience in their field of expertise. I believe that there needs to be tiers of contests. For instance if a contest creator starts a contest and states that they only need a rough design of something this should be considered a tier 1 design contest. So on and so forth. Perhaps 3 different design tiers for the contests. It is frustrating for the designers who enter the contests and deliver what was asked for and then the person who started the contest asked for more and more refinement. Like Cad Geek said, they want to pay peanuts for the Mona Lisa!
Exactly!  They want changes, want changes.  They say in the beginning that "I just want rough design", but once submitted, they ask for very detailed design.
Michael Pinto
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sldraftingdesign wrote:
Michael Pinto wrote:Yes there are many talented designers on here with years of experience in their field of expertise. I believe that there needs to be tiers of contests. For instance if a contest creator starts a contest and states that they only need a rough design of something this should be considered a tier 1 design contest. So on and so forth. Perhaps 3 different design tiers for the contests. It is frustrating for the designers who enter the contests and deliver what was asked for and then the person who started the contest asked for more and more refinement. Like Cad Geek said, they want to pay peanuts for the Mona Lisa!
Exactly!  They want changes, want changes.  They say in the beginning that "I just want rough design", but once submitted, they ask for very detailed design.
slddrafingdesign,
I have seen some of the work you do, very nice stuff! Unfortunately for the hours of work that you invest in these projects, you will never see the return on your time invested with this site in it's current format. I see some of the "prizes" and think who is going to put in 10 hrs of work for $80. I understand that it is partly for the challenge and the merit of being shown on the main page of the Cad Crowd website but that only goes so far.
  Another problem with this website/format is the fact that the contests are open to a global audience instead of it being broken down into a regional format. For example a designer from the United States which has a higher cost of living and completely different economic status is competing against another designer in another part of the world where $80 prize is considered a lot of money. Why would a designer in the United States invest hours of their time for $80, when another designer is willing to invest the same amount of time where $80 is worth considerably more in their economy? The contests should be based on regional location of the person who starts the contest and the individual designers who participate in that contest. Location can be verified over the web by using IP addresses. If a user logs into the Cad Crowd website from a specific IP address, then they will have access to those contests that are available in their region. It really isn't that difficult to accomplish this. This would give the designers of that region more incentive to do their best work as they will not be competing against the entire world for what seems like a pittance of a reward. Just my thoughts....
sldraftingdesign
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Michael Pinto wrote:
sldraftingdesign wrote:
Michael Pinto wrote:Yes there are many talented designers on here with years of experience in their field of expertise. I believe that there needs to be tiers of contests. For instance if a contest creator starts a contest and states that they only need a rough design of something this should be considered a tier 1 design contest. So on and so forth. Perhaps 3 different design tiers for the contests. It is frustrating for the designers who enter the contests and deliver what was asked for and then the person who started the contest asked for more and more refinement. Like Cad Geek said, they want to pay peanuts for the Mona Lisa!
Exactly!  They want changes, want changes.  They say in the beginning that "I just want rough design", but once submitted, they ask for very detailed design.
slddrafingdesign,
I have seen some of the work you do, very nice stuff! Unfortunately for the hours of work that you invest in these projects, you will never see the return on your time invested with this site in it's current format. I see some of the "prizes" and think who is going to put in 10 hrs of work for $80. I understand that it is partly for the challenge and the merit of being shown on the main page of the Cad Crowd website but that only goes so far.
  Another problem with this website/format is the fact that the contests are open to a global audience instead of it being broken down into a regional format. For example a designer from the United States which has a higher cost of living and completely different economic status is competing against another designer in another part of the world where $80 prize is considered a lot of money. Why would a designer in the United States invest hours of their time for $80, when another designer is willing to invest the same amount of time where $80 is worth considerably more in their economy? The contests should be based on regional location of the person who starts the contest and the individual designers who participate in that contest. Location can be verified over the web by using IP addresses. If a user logs into the Cad Crowd website from a specific IP address, then they will have access to those contests that are available in their region. It really isn't that difficult to accomplish this. This would give the designers of that region more incentive to do their best work as they will not be competing against the entire world for what seems like a pittance of a reward. Just my thoughts....


Thanks for the kind words, I try! Ill play devil's advocate. I can see it both ways, the only issue with this method is it really eliminates competition and amount of contests that one can enter. For instance the knob contest I just done was for a guy from Italy. Based on your IP requirement, I could not have even seen that contest.

I do agree, I mostly do these for the fun and challenge and do not count as these contests as my primary source of revenue. Ill do a contest when work gets slow to keep my skills honed, try new things, etc...

Also you are correct, it does suck having to compete against someone say in India that can charge a lot less and $80 is a lot to them. So they have value in working a week for that, whereas someone like me makes that before lunch daily.

I dont know if there is a right or wrong way to change the platform, but my biggest gripe is really the payment pending thing. I think they SHOULD have to pay money to even post a contest. If they cancel or dont pick a winner, then they forfeit part of that money. Hold the contest holders accountable. But I do like your tier system. if you want drawings, 100% ready to go work, then the amount needs to be a lot more. But if you are looking for something conceptual, then it would be on a lower tier.

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