Wheelie Bin Lid LifterBlind

in Invention Design Help held by waynej1
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Description:
I’m looking for an experienced CAD designer to take the current design of my patent pending Wheelie Bin Lid Lifter and make it aesthetically better. I would also like them to develop a 3D model design/animation showing that it works and create the CAD drawings to suit So that I can take it to a manufacturer and they can make me a working prototype. Please see the attached images and video of my working prototype.
Wants:
1. You can keep it similar or completely change my design WOW factor me.
2. Must be resistant to all weather eg. extreme heat, rain, wind, and snow (doesn't rust and fall apart)(want it to last at least 5 to 10 years)
3. Must be able to open 1 or 2 bin lids individually or at the same time. as per my video.
4. I would like a 3D model design/animation to see how it works.
5. I would like the CAD drawings to suit so I can submit them to a patent attorney for approval and to a manufacturer to produce a working prototype
6. The CAD drawings must be in STL format so it works on the manufactures machines / 3d printers
7. must be able to be packaged in a flat pack style but assembled easy
8. I wanted it to be free-standing but have the option to be bolted into a fixed position/location
9. built strong but in light material. prefer no tooling required to construct the device.
10. have the option to personalize the bin foot pedal with interchangeable designs as per my photos
Don't Wants:
1. I don't want a fully welded product like my prototype. (must be able to be packaged easily not bulky)
2. I don't want plastic parts as they will perish in the sun.
3. I don't want to pay for injection molding to make the device.
5. I want minimal fixings / if not none to erect the device
Software:
  1. solid works?

Entries

= Buyer's Rating
2nd Winner
#18 Wheelie Bin Lid Lifter Model 1.2 by Hamed1
Jan 5, 2023 13:10
#5 WheelieBinLidLifter-SS-2 by Sava
Dec 13, 2022 9:47
#11 Open-Close Mechanism for 140L,240L and 360L Bin by Sachin_Patel
Dec 29, 2022 14:09
#2 WB24 by mohitm2
Dec 10, 2022 13:11
#15 Wheel Bin Lid Lifter by Mahbub
Dec 30, 2022 6:30
#12 Wheelie Bin Lid Lifter 01 by ahmadnazree
Dec 29, 2022 16:43
#8 Wheelie Bin Lid Lifter by sherifelsheikh
Dec 26, 2022 12:26
#4 wheelie bine lin lifter by abuobeday
Dec 11, 2022 17:14
#21 WBLL - Parts by gopinathr1
Jan 26, 2023 15:21

Discussion

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waynej1

Buyer

Tue, 10 Jan 2023 03:05:07 +0000
Good morning everyone who has entered my competition, I have selected the winner. so please don't be offended by my decision.

I would like to thank everyone who entered but there can be only 1 winner.

So there are a lot of designs that I like but there are 2 x 5-star entries that I really like, from the start of the competition there first 2 entries that they entered to me were both 4-star entries and were my 2 favorites right from the start of the competition and their hard work, Time and effort, files supplied, animations videos and modifications that they made along the way brought them both from a 4-star design to a 5-star design.

Entry Looks awesome, and the design is basic and simple. and I do say basic is better, it looks cost-effective to make and should be simple to mass-produce and package.

Entry Looks awesome and it definitely WOW! factors me. But I've never 3D-made metal stuff before so I'm not sure how much it is going to cost me to make, mass produce, and package. but I am going to try and make it anyway.

I want to select you both as the winners. and give you the same prize money. So I contacted cad crowd they told me to edit my competition and add a 2nd winner so I did.

But as there can be only 1 winner I want to choose Entry as it is definitely WOW factor's me.

So congratulations Gopinathr1 you are the 1st winner of The Wheelie Bin Lid Lifter,
And congratulations Hamed1 you are the 2nd winner of The wheelie bin Lid Lifter.

I hope I do not offend you with my decision his design just had the WOW factor. but I love your design too. I also asked a few people to confirm which design they liked to help make the decision.

So once again thanks everyone and have a nice day

waynej1

Buyer

Fri, 30 Dec 2022 21:58:19 +0000
Good morning everyone, There have been some amazing designs being submitted. So I would like to thank everyone involved for your entries, Time, Hard work, and Effort. Well, the competition is over and now I have to select the winner. I'm still going through each entry and commenting, writing my thoughts and suggestions to the designer. I'm almost there, I've had a few entries come in the last couple of days that I have to go through as well. so I'll just be a few days to decide. Please don't be offended if I do not choose you I wish I could all give you a prize. Hopefully, If this wheelie bin lid lifter is successful I can give you all a prize later. Thanks, everyone happy New Year, and I'll chat with you all in 2023.

DexterOna11

Designer

Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:09:07 +0000
Hi waynej1! I am happy I was able to redo and submit my design even though I accidentally reformatted my first one. Your comments and suggestions are very much appreciated! Merry Christmas!

waynej1

Buyer

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 23:27:31 +0000
Good morning Gopinathr1 and Hamed1, thanks for your comments. ok, I will try and start making some comments. Have a good Christmas everyone. Thanks for all your entries and hard work.

gopinathr1

Designer

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 13:11:44 +0000
Dear Wayne, Merry Christmas...

Of course, you can leave distinctive comments on each design in the "Discussion" section that is located under the design entry for each designer. You can do this both during and after the contest period.

Every contest owner does this in order for the designers to know what they are expecting. This will help the designers to make improvement in their deisn to best meet the contest providers' expectations.

Please pay close attention to each and every file that a designer submits. Since this is the only way for the designers to better express all the intricate details that they have included in their designs.

If you are impressed with the work of more than one designer, CadCrowd allows you to include multiple prices, in fact as many as you want.

Please take your time. Please share your thoughts with us in the Discussion section.

Hamed1

Designer

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:26:30 +0000
Hi, don't worry about final files.....finnally You will receive all required documents from chosen designer. Please focus on communication with designers who participated in your contest.... Even if you don't like their design, just say it
You can send private feedback through design entry page at the bottom of the page....
Have a great Christmas.

waynej1

Buyer

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 04:14:35 +0000
Hi Hamed1, Thanks for your input. I've been impressed with the designs submitted so far. I was unsure if I was allowed to make individual comments on each design yet or if I had to wait until the competition ended and then work with the finalist to tweak it to what I wanted.

It's been really good so far there have been a lot of different ideas and I do want to make comments on all of them but also I did not want to waste people's time and effort if I was not going to go ahead with their design. if that makes sense.

I'll talk to my Friend to review the designs, rate them with me, and make comments later.

I have noticed that a few designers have done a lot more work than other designers and have included STL files and a lot more files to download than others. is that because they're waiting on my comments before they progress with their designs?

anyway have a nice Christmas Hamed1.

Hamed1

Designer

Thu, 22 Dec 2022 14:31:50 +0000
Hi Wayne....there are some top designers here that actually worked on your project base on your description, it's your contest, your choice but believe me it's better to rate their design and send feedback through design entry to keep progressing....

waynej1

Buyer

Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:40:34 +0000
Hi OskarS, it could be a commonwealth thing I'm not sure. I might have to look that up and find out.

Increasing the stroke would work, when I made it I was not sure what height people wanted to lift their legs to step on the pedal that's why I made it 50mm I thought it was a good height at the time when I drew it and I was just trying to create a working prototype to prove that my idea would work and then perfect it from there. That's why I'm trying out cad crowd, you guys are professional engineers and product developers and have the skill set that I don't have so if you think it needs to change to 75mm then do it. Do whatever you think would make it work better and look better. I look forward to your design.

Due to the Christmas holidays, I found I get less time now. Kids, Wife, Moving house, etc. I apologize for not getting back to message you sooner. have a good Christmas.
Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:34:18 +0000
It just so happens that the 240L bin dimensions are the same here in Northern Ireland, and around here I haven't seen any residential buildings with bigger bins. Maybe it's a commonwealth thing.

Thinking about it some more, the best/only way to get more "power" is to increase the stroke of the pedal, so perhaps instead of 50mm travel, change it to 75mm. My intuition tells me that in this particular linkage arrangement the placement of the fulcrum has little to no effect. Ultimately you're converting 50mm of vertical stroke of the pedal into a full swing of the bin lid, how you arrange the linkages in between doesn't really matter as you can only get so much work from the stroke of the pedal.

Fortunately due to Christmas holidays I will have more time and I can spend a few hours on some kind of a solution!

waynej1

Buyer

Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:34:54 +0000
Hi OskarS, Thanks, yes it definitely comes in handy when cleaning up after the dogs and other choirs around the house.

I found the fulcrum point did work fine on my design. But it was a little bit harder to push down and the vertical bar flexes a bit when there were 2 bins attached. For me, it was fine as I'm a bigger fellow and have more weight to push it down. My misses and kids struggled to push down the pedal when there are 2 bins attached, that is why I was looking at moving it back further to create an easier lift. That way it makes it easier for old people and disabled people. also what I have found is by having it set up and attached to my bins, my kids love taking the rubbish out even my 1-year-old likes taking his nappy bag out after I change his bum I just have to help him push the pedal down.

Thanks for your advice, I was going to focus on the 240L first as everyone has that common bin type, But what I found was a few houses do have different size bins, and each country around the world and their council's bins do have slightly different dimensions, So I just thought if we make it adjustable then we only need to make 1 design to suit all and every country. The dimensions I submitted in a previous post are for the Perth bins but like I said there are so many different councils around Perth and they all have slightly different types of bins.
I'm keen to see what you come up with, just remember there are about 10 days left in the competition. have a nice day
Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:40:07 +0000
Hi Wayne, nice idea. God knows I could use it when cleaning up the garden after the dogs.

The fulcrum point is probably fine where it is. I'd be lucky to get my children to take out the rubbish lol.

I could probably quickly make up a cheap and cheerful sheet metal design you could get cut in bulk for relatively cheap.
I recommend scrapping the adjustable idea and just making 3 models for different size bins however, it will greatly simplify the design. I'd probably stick with 240L model for start to test the waters.

Sava

Designer

Sun, 18 Dec 2022 18:55:42 +0000
Ok, thank you. Understood.

waynej1

Buyer

Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:13:23 +0000
Hi Sava, and everyone else who has submitted a design so far they look really good. Don't worry, I'm still here, I have not given up. Sorry, I have not been active on cad crowd, I have been moving house the last few days so all my stuff is packed up in boxes and I have not unpacked and set up yet.

I have been looking at everyone's designs and there were some that I liked more than others, and I would like to comment on each entry but as it is a competition I was not sure if I was allowed to and If I should make personal comments on each entry or not as I don't want to favor someone. but then after the competition, I was hoping to work with the winner to make adjustments to the design winner that I selected.

so all I can say is just follow my guidelines as in my wants and don't wants. and also
I want people to buy it and people don't like spending money (especially on their garbage bin), so it needs to be able to be made as cheaply as possible but still built strong and of good quality and aesthetics.
I want it to be package-able so it fits into a box (makes it easier for shipping), and people do not like complicated things they just want to buy it and it works. So it either needs to be easily assembled and clicked together or the legs and lifting arm come attached and are on hinges and are folded down/up and locked into place. once either option is assembled and in the correct bin location position, you then have the option to bolt it into the concrete.
and I want it to be manufacturable, so I can take the winner's design and put the STL file into the computer and the factory builds and assembles it. and then you receive your final product at the end of manufacturing.

Sava

Designer

Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:21:21 +0000
Hi Waynej What's up, are you here? If you haven't given up on the contest, could you share what you think of the current entries? Should we continue to develop them already in detail or should we stop?

waynej1

Buyer

Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:45:01 +0000
Hi, Sava thanks for your advice, This is the first time I have used Cad crowd, I didn't realize I could do that, I'll do that in my next competition. I'm not sure if I can edit my post, I'll check it out later.

Sava

Designer

Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:51:57 +0000
When there are three prizes, a man has a somewhat greater incentive to work, because he hopes for at least some, even a small, return on the means of living which he has expended while working. When it's just one reward, the likelihood of any return is drastically reduced, and many designers don't want to waste their time at all.

waynej1

Buyer

Thu, 01 Dec 2022 22:48:06 +0000
Hi, all so just thought I would mention it, So in Australia, everybody has a certain spot around their homes where they leave and place their wheelie bin (around the back, at the front, down the side, etc.) The night before the rubbish pick-up day, We all get our wheelie bin from where it is placed around our houses and wheel them to the front of the house and position it forward facing on the curb for the rubbish truck to come and pick them up. When we get home from work we grab our emptied wheelie bin and return it to back to our bin location.

So as everybody always returns the bin back to the same location I thought it would be a good idea to create a docking station. So when we are inside the house and go to take the rubbish out we fill up our hands with rubbish and go outside to put it into the wheelie bin, but as our hands are full we either have to place the rubbish down then lift the lid and pick up the rubbish again and then place it into the bin then close the lid again or we try to lift the lid with our hands full and end up dropping the rubbish anyway.

So having a foot pedal or some design that opens and closes makes it easier for people. That's why I was looking at making a docking station, wall device, or another idea that you can slide the empty wheelie bin, attach the lifting arm, use the foot pedal function if needed, then the night before the rubbish day you remove the lifting arm, slide out the full wheelie bin and place it at the front of the house on the curb.

waynej1

Buyer

Thu, 01 Dec 2022 21:59:01 +0000
Hi Shan1, Good pick up yes you are absolutely right about the fulcrum. I forgot to mention it. So on my design when you push down on the pedal it opens 1 bin lid ok but when you place a second bin and push down on the pedal you do have to use a lot more force. It works fine for me because I'm a bigger man but my wife has to push down a bit harder to get it to lift and my kids do not have the weight to push down on it so they cant use it. So that's why I wanted to design it so everyone can use it. You can get your kids to take the rubbish out, It's easy for the old people or they could use their walking stick to push down on it and even people with disabilities can use it.
I wanted to move the fulcrum back further to create less force and more lift or completely change the design altogether that's why I made it a contest to see what you all come up with
Thu, 01 Dec 2022 08:59:42 +0000
The idea is good enough. But the fulcrum technology is not so good. While you open the basket you need to give more load which children can't do so. So we need to change some design change and the aluminium extrusion may be good to long last and connection will be very easy to fix at the same time asthetic will be good enough. Solidworks software will be ample for all your needs like design drawing & simulation as well.

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